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Quick question--which Xyron machine do you think would work best for adding adhesives to the back of die cuts for cards? I have a Silhouette Portrait and am tired of trying to put glue on the backs of intricate doilies, lacy frames, die cut words and phrases, etc. I don't want to use it for glitter, etc.
I would get the 510 if I were only to buy one machine. It will take pieces up to 5 inches wide, big enough for most cards. The little X machine is good for small pieces, I keep one on my work table.
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I have the X and the 510. I bought both with a coupon. The X is great for tiny pieces and you don't waste adhesive . I use the 510 for larger pieces.
If you have never used a Xyron you will have better results if you use a small ball stylus or and empty ball point pen and rub around the edges of the cuts before you remove the backing paper to attach them .
You will not regret buying the Xyron . The Silhouette does some remarkably detailed cutting and it would be frustrating to try to apply adhesive to those tiny spaces !
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I wouldn't be without my xyrons - the X, 2.5" and 5". I bought 2 for my 10 year old godchild and she loves making stickers from paper punches for herself and friends. All of my xyrons came with a starter roll.
I agree with use of the ball stylus, as some adhesive does try to go outside the papers. The adhesive square doesn't work as well for me to take off any leftover adhesive. I always use coupons, and have found a great sales on the refills on HSN when it's craft show time. There is an upcoming HSN event on October 7th. Anna Griffin will be showing several times as the holiday products are revealed.
As an added bonus, my friend and I use the discarded xyron papers as the base for our glue dots made from Aleene's Tack it Over and Over glue. Simply squeeze out a small amount from the bottle, onto the xyron (or freezer wrap/waxed) papers, let sit 24 hours and voila! Super sticky glue dots that hold anything to almost any surface. Haven't lost an embellishment yet! These really stick and no longer can be moved (i.e., tacked over and over). We stack the "candy dot looking" sheets on top of each other and store them in SU plastic cases. I have a set "brewing" now, up on the counter, away from puppy hair. You cannot believe how many you can get from one bottle! Size control is a key, especially if you don't want a seriously raised surface on your card. Just watch how you do your drops.
I found my glue bottles online via JoAnn's. This idea came from a craft workshop for frugal people, probably 4 years ago.
Thanks for the additional information, ciocidi. I'm still a bit fuzzy about what you mean about using a stylus. I have one, but don't know what you are referring to on using it with the Xyron (since I have never seen one demonstrated, or being used). Could you explain that a little? Or point me to a tutorial?
Thanks, too, for the tips about how to save money on the refills, and how to make my own glue dots with the leftover Xyron paper. I have some of the Aleene's TIO&O already, so it would be very easy to do!
Thanks for the additional information, ciocidi. I'm still a bit fuzzy about what you mean about using a stylus. I have one, but don't know what you are referring to on using it with the Xyron (since I have never seen one demonstrated, or being used). Could you explain that a little? Or point me to a tutorial?
Thanks, too, for the tips about how to save money on the refills, and how to make my own glue dots with the leftover Xyron paper. I have some of the Aleene's TIO&O already, so it would be very easy to do!
Here is another video on using the larger Xyron. This woman is using a dental pick to burnish the edges so the glue doesn't creep out from under the edges. I use a small ball stylus
Buddy'smama--I am using Tombow mono multi right now, but it either dries too fast before I can get all the little nooks and crannies covered, or some squishes out from underneath and it stays sticky forever. I have tried lifting it off with my adhesive remover (crepe eraser), but that doesn't work.
I don't use my Xyron for intricate cuts. The adhesive sticks in between the spaces, even if I burnish it, and the Xyron sometimes mangles my delicate shapes. Sometimes I use a dot adhesive runner. It adheres only to the solid parts of the shape and doesn't stick in the open areas. I also use a Zig Glue Marker with a wide tip and tap it all over the die-cut. That usually works very well for me.
I have found that if you put your cardstock through the xyron and THEN die cut your word you will have no glue boogies - no need for stylus. I use dies so I'm not sure if your machine will cut through it or not.
I use pva glue inside of a fine tip applicator, and place the smallest amount of glue at strategic parts of my item I want to stick down. You would be surprised at how little glue it takes to adhere something small and intricate to paper.
I don't use my Xyron for intricate cuts. The adhesive sticks in between the spaces, even if I burnish it, and the Xyron sometimes mangles my delicate shapes.
Same for me.
I use double-sided adhesive sheets. I cut the cardstock to the basic size I need, adhere the adhesive sheet to the cardstock, and cut. I don't get nearly the amount of strings. If I forget to add the sheet before cutting, I apply dots of tombow mono but I have to be quick so that it doesn't dry out.
And WHERE did you find that magnificent bottle with the fine tip and the built-in cover??? I've checked everywhere around where I live (small town) and the only bottle I have been able to find with that small of a spout does not come with a lid. It must be sealed with a pin, which either rusts or becomes permanently glued inside the spout.
PVA glue is my white craft glue of choice. Bookmakers use it because it doesn't warp paper at all when used, is pH neutral and dries clear and pretty quickly. You can get PVA glue from most art stores, but it's also sold on Amazon, Dick Blick and other online stores. Just google PVA glue for more options.
The fine tip bottle I showed a picture of is available here.
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Lynn in St. Louis--
What is pva glue?
And WHERE did you find that magnificent bottle with the fine tip and the built-in cover??? I've checked everywhere around where I live (small town) and the only bottle I have been able to find with that small of a spout does not come with a lid. It must be sealed with a pin, which either rusts or becomes permanently glued inside the spout.
I bought a fine-tip bottle in a scrapbook store, and the pin used for the stopper is stainless steel. I've had it almost 2 years, and it hasn't rusted yet. I think you can find them on Amazon. Lynn's looks very good too.
I'm not sure which one I have. I think it's a 500 or a 510. Do yourself a favor. look on Craigslist. That is where I got mine with several refills for $20. I see new ones posted all the time in my area. I'm sure most areas are similar for things like this.
I mainly use it for intricate die cuts I get tired of trying to glue lacy cuts . I also use a spray adhesive at times too. It really depends on what I've got going. I don't like it too much I prefer the Xyron. I've not tried the E6000, I'm going to have to give that a shot.
I do like all the ideas that have been put up on here.
I'm another spray adhesive fan for this sort of intricate cuts. This brand,Crafters Companion I buy over here, but they have a USA site too. There is a permanent, repositional and an adhesive remover available. I found the biggest issue with using a Xyron has already been mentioned- you need to go over the edges of the die cut with a stylus- very time consuming!and you still sometimes get bits of the adhesive left partly stuck, and it flicks back onto your project.
I have a Cameo electronic cutter but I've only used Silhouette brand adhesive backed cardstock...the blade doesn't have a problem with it. I would think using a Xyron first might yield a similar result...but don't quote me on it!
Unless what I've read is wrong, the Stick it Product isn't available until January 2015. According to Ken Oliver's website, they did offer samples at a recent show though.
Still seems to be on sale. You have to join to be able to order but if you join you will get 1-2 emails a day with featured deals. It's a good way to keep up with new crafting products.
xyron question for electronic die cutter
